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  • di
    di
    Posted on:
    17th Aug 2010 05:48pm

    Last Post 15th Jun 2011
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    Australian jobs...jetstar are employing foreign flight attendants...now pilots what do you think of

    My concern is how are they doing this?Legally that is...its not as if we dont have enough locals to be flight attendants.
    Pilots are next as they look at employing contract pilots,some part time,from overseas.Many young aussies have struggeled to make it into an airline(ie getting there hours up on small aeroplanes at great expense to themselves....there wont be jobs for them if we employ foreign crew here.At the momment my daughter cant get a job as a flight attendent with them as she is a local!They are employing Thai nationals and singapore crew,yet they are doing melb -hawaii,melb. fro example...I can see aussie jobs for staff dissapearing and now pilots!Standards and safety come into question now.Pilots have been empoyed in other countries to do contract work and safty has been compromised.Casa are aware of this as is Julia Gillard...but both have done nothing!What do you think...shouldnt we be protecting aussie jobs and safety standards?

  • blondie72
    blondie72
    Posted on:
    21st Aug 2010 03:30pm

    blondie72 says: This is infuriating and should be stopped but how? I am boycotting companies that do this and so should everyone else.

  • di
    di
    Posted on:
    22nd Aug 2010 03:26pm

    blondie72 says: This is infuriating and should be stopped but how? I am boycotting companies that do this and so should everyone else.

    di says: Yes blondie it is.Very hard to say what anyone can do.The press sadly will report its about Pilots wanting more money.Its not.Its about jobs going overseas ,when there are able australians who can fill the postions.Its about young women and men wanting to be flight attendants and Jetstar employing more foreign crew to do jobs an Australian can do.Its also about SAFETY.Most of the tahi crews are failing basic training here so now they are being sent offshore and wow...guess what they pass!Their English is so poor and their training so poor they are a hazard to the travelling public if there was ever an emergency.ie...recently they were asked during training to look right to see a hazard...they all looked left....and of course there is more,but I cant say who I am and reveal my identity.Sadly the pilots are quite a disjointed non unionised lot,who really are poor at pulling together.What they need is good press,that is not from the Jetstar company.They need legal advice,political support and pressure on Jestar from the public.If you want to help I suggest you right to Allan Joyce head of Qantas,or email...and say what I have said.Qantas say they want to represent Australia...but not anymore.Just where Abbott and Gillard will do is dubious.Gillard has knowledge of this and has done nothing.So perhaps Abbott is best.A big meeting of all pilots is happeneing Monday...for jetstar,but pilots from all other companies will be attending including cadets and GA pilots because for them if foriegn pilots are allowed to fly here their carreers are over.

  • blondie72
    blondie72
    Posted on:
    22nd Aug 2010 05:16pm

    blondie72 says: Easy for them to say its about pilots wanting more money when somebody poorly qualified is willing to do it for half the cost. Point is, I want a house built not a tent and I'm willing to pay the price for a house.

  • Suzanne279
    Suzanne279
    Posted on:
    3rd Sep 2010 10:21am

    Suzanne279 says: I believe its the want for the jobs, a lot of australians hide from jobs they don't want and are picky. Employers want someone willing to do the job at any cost

  • PukPuk
    PukPuk
    Posted on:
    26th Oct 2010 08:06am

    PukPuk says: If the foreiners are being employed on the same standards (ie salary, conditions, incentives etc) as a domestic employee would be then it must be down to the difference in work attitudes. It would then be up to the traditional lazy employee to lift their standards. If it is because Jetstar can under provide for employee conditions, then it is totally wrong and action needs to be taken.

  • PGS
    PGS
    Posted on:
    15th Jun 2011 09:16pm

    PukPuk says: If the foreiners are being employed on the same standards (ie salary, conditions, incentives etc) as a domestic employee would be then it must be down to the difference in work attitudes. It would...

    PGS says: Part of the problem is that they are not paid the same.

    An Aussie hostie/steward gets about $50,000/year
    Singapore staff are around $20,000
    Thai staff about $5-6000

    All to do the same job.

    Aussie staf are required to have a 2 -3 day layover between the 16+ hour shifts. Asian staff are lucky if they have time to get off the plane.


  • woosif
    woosif
    Posted on:
    18th Nov 2010 08:49am

    woosif says: Remember its in the wording - foriegn does that mean you have a different colour skin or just have a chinese background or from Europe - does it mean you were not born in this country - I get this on and off I am from Europe and it seems to matter that I have an accent but am white but am asked do you live here ect ect so I am called foriegn even though here for 13 years married and aussie and have 2 kids but I am still called foriegn so get all the facts first, there are alot of overseas people who are now australian and not born here. wording wording wording

  • di
    di
    Posted on:
    20th Nov 2010 07:29am

    di says: Of course foreign means holds passport of another country and is not an resident of Australia(does not live in Australia)...The CEO of Jetstar in his "wisdom" wants to employ people from other countries on very very low salaries and have them working beside those on Australian salaries and conditions. This way he lowers the cost base,slowly rids himself of Australian residents and or forces them onto lower salaries and conditions. This is already happening with flight attendants flying here in Australia (Thai or japanese) and pilots in NZ .

    This discussion is about the eroding of jobs for Australians,pilots,flight attendents,baggage handlers.,etc etc.Its about safety standards to. Do you want your co pilot to have only flown 200 hours?Thats whats planned .Our children do a little less hours(120) learning to drive a car!

  • stretch
    stretch
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    13th Jan 2011 12:35pm

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    stretch
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  • marcellamarie
    marcellamarie
    Posted on:
    4th Feb 2011 10:07am

    marcellamarie says: I agree, Australia should look after its citizens first.

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