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  • butterfly
    butterfly
    Posted on:
    20th Dec 2010 03:51pm

    Last Post 4th Mar 2013
    Replies     33

    Sponcering a child

    we have sponsered a child for about 12 years, and now world vision have given us a new child who is only 4 years old. Madalitso our other boy no longer requires help. We are pensioners and if we can find the $50 a month to help a child why can not all this young things who only think of getting drunk and enjoying themselves

  • Noms
    Noms
    Posted on:
    7th Jan 2011 12:35pm

    Noms says: Iam always weary of these things. I would prefer to give help at home in Australia. But I care for all people its just there is so many gaps involved with the money and if they tell the truth.

  • butterfly
    butterfly
    Posted on:
    7th Jan 2011 05:25pm

    Noms says: Iam always weary of these things. I would prefer to give help at home in Australia. But I care for all people its just there is so many gaps involved with the money and if they tell the truth.

    butterfly says: I agree that there are some who I would not sponser with, but World Vision is not one. As for all the help needed at home, we do have Goverment pension's these poor people have nothing. There are no Salvo's going to knock on their doors, no Supermarket's with donation baskets for food items, no wish tree's, no Smith family, Vinnie's etc, all they have is us. Young people today mainly only think of themselves, then when they are older and ready to settle down it is, I must have a four wheel drive, holidays, boat, the largest house and biggest mortgage I can find (not what I can afford) the Government will give us more hand outs for our kids etc, no the world is not such a nice place any more, and I dread to think what will happen when all us oldies who will go with out to help others are gone.

  • Athries
    Athries
    Posted on:
    13th Jan 2011 06:09pm

    butterfly says: I agree that there are some who I would not sponser with, but World Vision is not one. As for all the help needed at home, we do have Goverment pension's these poor people have nothing. There are...

    Athries says: I am very weary about sponsoring in other countries, as I am aware from experience that the governments of certain countries take a higher percentage of the money than what the sponsored child gets.

  • butterfly
    butterfly
    Posted on:
    13th Jan 2011 06:33pm

    Athries says: I am very weary about sponsoring in other countries, as I am aware from experience that the governments of certain countries take a higher percentage of the money than what the sponsored child gets.

    butterfly says: yes this is so, but one must weigh it all up and find one that is true blue. I also give a small donation every month to children with out borders, just take at look at the honest ones. The Church is always a good way to find help. I believe firmly in World Vision but there are those I would never use, of course I can not name them, just look at their records. I would never give to one of those dictator countries, or those who only employ their own families. Give it some more thought

  • Becky
    Becky
    Posted on:
    17th May 2011 05:34am

    Athries says: I am very weary about sponsoring in other countries, as I am aware from experience that the governments of certain countries take a higher percentage of the money than what the sponsored child gets.

    Becky says: Atheries,it is the aid money which gets syphened by corrupt govt members but world vision,tearfund etc stay away from govt fund groups & go direct to village situations where if you sponsor a child you end up helping the whole village.Its an awesome concept & develops independance for many families who can then provide for their tribes future & even get to send their kids to school instead of out working in the fields all day every day at extremely young ages.Great discussion guys :)

  • Jim
    Jim
    Posted on:
    1st Aug 2011 03:47pm

    Athries says: I am very weary about sponsoring in other countries, as I am aware from experience that the governments of certain countries take a higher percentage of the money than what the sponsored child gets.

    Jim says: actually good on you , becouse believe it or not the child " " doesnt get help from all the $ you give , But many children get the help from your $ , which amounts to $1 each for 10 children from a $10 note. So in fact The child that you sponsor does not come out poverty or ill health as quick as it should. As you can see i would rather see all the $ I give given into helping the child i sponser.

  • Mumof3
    Mumof3
    Posted on:
    4th Mar 2013 07:51pm

    Athries says: I am very weary about sponsoring in other countries, as I am aware from experience that the governments of certain countries take a higher percentage of the money than what the sponsored child gets.

    Mumof3 says: I visited my sponsor child in indonesia and the world vision staff showed us exactly where our money went. Some went directly to the child, helping her to go to school and have the uniform, supplies etc but some also went to her local community. The showed us a project where they were building rice fields where previously all the locals had to eat and earn money from was palm sugar. The rice field would help them earn money and feed themselves and their families. We had grown men coming up to us and shaking our hands to say thank you for our help.
    It was the most amazing experience and I wouldn't hesitate to recommend sponsoring a child through world vision.

  • tommy
    tommy
    Posted on:
    10th Feb 2011 05:01pm

    butterfly says: I agree that there are some who I would not sponser with, but World Vision is not one. As for all the help needed at home, we do have Goverment pension's these poor people have nothing. There are...

    tommy says: i just wonder whether you have children. it is our generation who failed. i olso did sponsored a child in haity . i am now sponsring a young african . i met his mother in zambia and know that there is no middle man and the young man is getting a good education. i get all the results from his school . he is on email and i know where the money is going to. good fun very satisfying tom

  • Jode
    Jode
    Posted on:
    28th Mar 2011 07:16am

    tommy says: i just wonder whether you have children. it is our generation who failed. i olso did sponsored a child in haity . i am now sponsring a young african . i met his mother in zambia and know that there...

    Jode says: That is really great Tom! It must be exciting to have such great correspondence with the person you sponsor. I also sponsor a child in Africa and I receive regular letters from her in her own handwriting (which is then translated). I agree, good fun and very satisfying.

    Jode

  • Becky
    Becky
    Posted on:
    17th May 2011 05:36am

    tommy says: i just wonder whether you have children. it is our generation who failed. i olso did sponsored a child in haity . i am now sponsring a young african . i met his mother in zambia and know that there...

    Becky says: Yip same with me tommy,we sponsor 2 kids in the world & luv getting all their updates & school results etc. It DOES make a difference & giving money regularly to a well known proven organisation makes all the difference.Just choose carefully who you want to go through & enjoy the rewards :)

  • tommy
    tommy
    Posted on:
    10th Feb 2011 04:55pm

    Noms says: Iam always weary of these things. I would prefer to give help at home in Australia. But I care for all people its just there is so many gaps involved with the money and if they tell the truth.

    tommy says: hi noms i do agree with you i visited zambia 5 years ago and met a mother who tried to educate his son ( then 11) as there is no good school in the little village at the lake they are living , she wanted to send him to a boarding school. my friend and i are sponsoring him since then . he now passed all exames, and will go to high school . we get all papers from school and know where the money is going. very satisfying . if you are interesting to sponsor with some money let me know.
    tom can give you all details and prove . this is not a hoax .

  • stretch
    stretch
    Posted on:
    14th Jan 2011 12:53pm

    stretch says: did you ever meet the child
    there is no way of telling where this money went to
    for all you know
    he smokes marijuanna and has to pay the dealler
    why support them unless you can verafy the financers went toi this or that
    pictues are real easy to fix up so are video clips
    remember you are on a pension look after your self for a while $50.00 may not sound like a lot but hey would this not pay for a perm or a night out for a couple of lets say over 50
    let the politicians take care of them
    and the money is needed at home after all

  • butterfly
    butterfly
    Posted on:
    14th Jan 2011 02:52pm

    stretch says: did you ever meet the child
    there is no way of telling where this money went to
    for all you know
    he smokes marijuanna and has to pay the dealler
    why support them unless you can...

    butterfly says: Thank God you are no relation of mine. How dare you say these things, you do not even know the child, my new child is only Four years old. I feel very sorry for you, what a horrible mind you must have to think the worse of people, I dread to think what will happen to all these poor children when only people like you are left. I will go hungry before I let my little fellow down. Why do you not volunter for over seas aid work then you can see for your self what is going on. I would do this if I did not have bad health. Shame on you and those like you.

  • stretch
    stretch
    Posted on:
    17th Jan 2011 11:52am

    butterfly says: Thank God you are no relation of mine. How dare you say these things, you do not even know the child, my new child is only Four years old. I feel very sorry for you, what a horrible mind you must...

    stretch says: ok if you believe i am a bad person fair enough
    the reason i dont put in for over seas work is i am not allowed out of australia as have criminal history for a few mild crimes
    also i dont believe in volunteering not even for australia
    but i do believe the people that continue to request finances from australia should be given contraceptive from there government
    and why go hungry for some one you will never meet
    you must have a large heart


  • Nanadel
    Nanadel
    Posted on:
    19th Feb 2011 08:14am

    butterfly says: Thank God you are no relation of mine. How dare you say these things, you do not even know the child, my new child is only Four years old. I feel very sorry for you, what a horrible mind you must...

    Nanadel says: I absolutely agree with you about "stretch". He/she is obviously not a Christian with a loving heart., and only wants to think the worst of everyone. I too am a sponsor and have some wonderful thankful letters from my child in Africa, who is now able to attend school because of me. But my most heartwarming story of sponsoring, is that over 10yrs ago I sponsored a child in the Phillipines, and she has now contacted me through Facebook and is the most loving and thankful young lady, who now calls me Nana and continually tells me she loves me. Get a life Stretch.............it is far better to give than receive!

  • JOYBELLS
    JOYBELLS
    Posted on:
    16th Jan 2011 01:56am

    JOYBELLS says: I totally agree that young people should help to sponsor a Child in a poor
    Country .But I do commend on all the young people who are helping with the Clean up of the Queensland Flood victims who in many cases have lost everything but they haven't lost their sense of Community Spirit and their sense of Humour ,My Prayers and thoughts go out to all of the Flood people who have lost all their possessions and also some of their loved ones.I unfortunately am unable to help with the clean up but have offered to help house any dogs or cats while they are cleaning up.

  • butterfly
    butterfly
    Posted on:
    16th Jan 2011 10:09am

    JOYBELLS says: I totally agree that young people should help to sponsor a Child in a poor
    Country .But I do commend on all the young people who are helping with the Clean up of the Queensland Flood victims...

    butterfly says: well done, I am unable to assist with the clean up due to bad health, and as I already have resue dogs am not much use there; But I have donated what I could and send all my prayers. It is wonderful to see young people out there, they are doing a really wonderful job.

  • Pop
    Pop
    Posted on:
    7th Feb 2011 08:21pm

    Pop says: Do you know how much of your money actually reaches the child. I hate how World vision uses pictures of starving children to tug the heartstrings but these are not the children sponsored.
    There are more effective charities to help children in poverty.

  • Mumof3
    Mumof3
    Posted on:
    4th Mar 2013 08:00pm

    Pop says: Do you know how much of your money actually reaches the child. I hate how World vision uses pictures of starving children to tug the heartstrings but these are not the children...

    Mumof3 says: I am just copying a reply that I made to someone above but it answers your fairly ignorant response...
    I visited my sponsor child in Indonesia and the world vision staff showed us exactly where our money went. Some went directly to the child, helping her to go to school and have the uniform, supplies etc but some also went to her local community. The showed us a project where they were building rice fields where previously all the locals had to eat and earn money from was palm sugar. The rice field would help them earn money and feed themselves and their families. We had grown men coming up to us and shaking our hands to say thank you for our help.
    We also visited the school and my sponsor child's home. The responses that we got from the teachers and her parents showed us exactly how much our sponsorship helps.
    It was the most amazing experience and I wouldn't hesitate to recommend sponsoring a child through world vision.


  • Uvanna
    Uvanna
    Posted on:
    4th Mar 2011 11:23am

    Uvanna says: I think that helping someone to grow and evolve is an awesome gift ... I just wish people did this in their own back yard / country.

    When you meet a person you never really understand what conditions they live under ... therefore you can not judge, as this is not our right or place. People who are physically abused, generally have bruises that show, people who are mentally abused, their bruises are very hard to find unless you know what you are looking for and the scaring and damage can last throughout their lives.

    Both NZ and Aus still have cases of spouse abuse which is generally committed in front of their children ... what great role models eh? so we need you wonderful people who have compassion to look within your own countries are see where your aid (whether it's time or money) can be of use so that OUR CHILDREN grow to be happy (as this is not a crime, and is this not what we all parents want for their children?) and then maybe once we have resolved our own countries issues, we can then look to helping other countries.

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