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  • queenie
    queenie
    Posted on:
    8th Dec 2009 11:50pm

    Last Post 10th Jan 2013
    Replies     29

    Discussion: Love

    when will we stop using animals as guinie pigs except when its compleatly necessary and then who has the right to play god and decide the future of some defenceless animal queenie52

  • Phoenixflame
    Phoenixflame
    Posted on:
    17th Mar 2010 04:22pm

    Phoenixflame says: Are you a vegetarian? Do you eat meat?
    If yes, then this question is moot for your purposes.
    If no, then apparently the answer is that God made us superior to the rest of the animal kingdom and hence the size of our brains has allowed us to exploit this superiority to the best of our advantage, even if it's at the cost of the animal's well being.

  • queenie
    queenie
    Posted on:
    6th May 2010 06:50am

    Phoenixflame says: Are you a vegetarian? Do you eat meat?
    If yes, then this question is moot for your purposes.
    If no, then apparently the answer is that God made us superior to the rest of the animal kingdom...

    queenie says: no im not vegetarian i love meat but i do hate that an animal had to die for us to eat meat but everyone knows except vegitarians that we have to survive and that if we eat meat then sacrifice of an animal has to be im talking about animals that are killed for science reasons only we dont have the right to kill these such as monkeys whales dolphins ect

  • rachel44444
    rachel44444
    Posted on:
    9th Jul 2010 12:37pm

    queenie says: no im not vegetarian i love meat but i do hate that an animal had to die for us to eat meat but everyone knows except vegitarians that we have to survive and that if we eat meat then sacrifice of...

    rachel44444 says: vegitarians prove u dont need meat to survive pff if u couldnt live without eating meat we vegos wouldnt be alive

  • Evie
    Evie
    Posted on:
    13th Dec 2010 08:04pm

    rachel44444 says: vegitarians prove u dont need meat to survive pff if u couldnt live without eating meat we vegos wouldnt be alive

    Evie says: Apparently being a vegetarian makes you loose all sense of grammar. Go eat a steak and learn to spell.

  • Hartmut
    Hartmut
    Posted on:
    5th Jul 2011 01:53pm

    Evie says: Apparently being a vegetarian makes you loose all sense of grammar. Go eat a steak and learn to spell.

    Hartmut says: Evie on these forums we are polite to each other, if you want to insult people with comments like 'learn to spell' go onto YOUTUBE.

  • Hartmut
    Hartmut
    Posted on:
    25th Sep 2012 02:20pm

    Evie says: Apparently being a vegetarian makes you loose all sense of grammar. Go eat a steak and learn to spell.

    Hartmut says: You complain about spelling mistakes?
    Gee, I never met a 'perfect' human like you before!
    Congratulation for having achieved that wondrous goal.

  • woosif
    woosif
    Posted on:
    18th Nov 2010 09:07am

    queenie says: no im not vegetarian i love meat but i do hate that an animal had to die for us to eat meat but everyone knows except vegitarians that we have to survive and that if we eat meat then sacrifice of...

    woosif says: Oh dear queenie - you have to get out a bit more love.... nice that you care but really millions of children die every year if you have kids then surely you like it that they have their small pox, yellow fever innoculations! in africa the children still die of strains of it, without testing it thousands more will die each year! you need to think of the whole picutre... you eat meat but want kids to die um!

  • Hartmut
    Hartmut
    Posted on:
    25th Sep 2012 02:16pm

    Phoenixflame says: Are you a vegetarian? Do you eat meat?
    If yes, then this question is moot for your purposes.
    If no, then apparently the answer is that God made us superior to the rest of the animal kingdom...

    Hartmut says: God has nothing to do with our human caused stupidities.
    And God has not made us 'Superior" to any other living thing.
    Do not believe what 'man-made' religions proclaims as "truth".
    They put a lot of silly stuff in their books or teaching - to exploit and control humans (women!) and animals for their own selfish purposes.

  • melb_terror
    melb_terror
    Posted on:
    6th May 2010 02:59am

    melb_terror says: queenie, do i need to point out that the idea of using animals as test subjects is so ingrained in our culture that even a person like yourself refers to a test subject as a GUINIE PIG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i would also like to ask you what circumstance would constitute it being completly necessary? who gets to make that choice? and of course who says the testing being done now isn't necessary? your question invalidates itself, think about it!

  • queenie
    queenie
    Posted on:
    6th May 2010 06:42am

    melb_terror says: queenie, do i need to point out that the idea of using animals as test subjects is so ingrained in our culture that even a person like yourself refers to a test subject as a GUINIE...

    queenie says: perfectly healthy animals should not be used for sicence do we cut up a perfectly healthy person no when they die yes if their organ doners so do the same with animals dont use our perfectly healthy pets for science find another way its just cruelty to defensless animals

  • krusty
    krusty
    Posted on:
    3rd Jul 2010 05:34pm

    krusty says: Why dont you voolunteer to have the tests done to you instead?

  • rachel44444
    rachel44444
    Posted on:
    9th Jul 2010 12:34pm

    krusty says: Why dont you voolunteer to have the tests done to you instead?

    rachel44444 says: lolmyeah take one for your furry friends... unfortuntately this is how world works if they didnt test certin things on animals humans will be the ones risking their lives its a more humane way rather a little mouse be sacrificed than someones mother father brother sister u know... isee were your coming from but there isnt a way to stop it

  • Analog6
    Analog6
    Posted on:
    17th May 2011 07:37am

    rachel44444 says: lolmyeah take one for your furry friends... unfortuntately this is how world works if they didnt test certin things on animals humans will be the ones risking their lives its a more humane way...

    Analog6 says: Not to the mouse!

  • Hartmut
    Hartmut
    Posted on:
    25th Sep 2012 02:45pm

    Analog6 says: Not to the mouse!

    Hartmut says: Bravo!

  • Hartmut
    Hartmut
    Posted on:
    25th Sep 2012 02:43pm

    rachel44444 says: lolmyeah take one for your furry friends... unfortuntately this is how world works if they didnt test certin things on animals humans will be the ones risking their lives its a more humane way...

    Hartmut says: Hm, and who might you be, to assume that you have a right to kill a little mouse?
    By that erroneous assumption, a Vastly Superior alien race would have the right to kill an inferior human.



  • PukPuk
    PukPuk
    Posted on:
    26th Oct 2010 09:29am

    PukPuk says: There will always be the use of animals for the purposes of humans for just causes. The question really is, who has the power of correct judgement as to what is a just cause.

  • butterfly
    butterfly
    Posted on:
    17th Nov 2010 06:53pm

    butterfly says: This reply is for all of you, well I do not eat meat, and I have 2 great pets. Why not test new things on criminals (USA) in exchange for not sending them to the death cells. Animals deserve to live more than they do, animals do not take life; if your so fond of experiments then why not have them done on your selves. I also only eat free range eggs, those poor hens live a life of hell, hey why don't some of you live that way for a week.

  • Hartmut
    Hartmut
    Posted on:
    1st Oct 2012 03:35pm

    butterfly says: This reply is for all of you, well I do not eat meat, and I have 2 great pets. Why not test new things on criminals (USA) in exchange for not sending them to the death cells. Animals deserve to...

    Hartmut says: Some good points, but some animals do kill, not for food but, like us,
    for other reasons. There is a documentary where it shows a male chimp killing a baby chimp.

  • woosif
    woosif
    Posted on:
    18th Nov 2010 09:05am

    woosif says: Ooh hard one, firstly if we had humans for trials then we wouldnt need animals BUT as we dont we have to try some drugs which can save thousands of peoples lives somehow - I know its a shame but do you know of any humans who want to be tested on? if you have travelled through india and africa and seen the humanity there you would understand more, my friend says this all the time but has only been to fiji and qld so understanding why its done would open so many peoples eyes as to why we use animals for testing for medial purposes, personally if for cosmetic purposes I think thats diabolical WE DONT need anymore cosmetics

  • kaz
    kaz
    Posted on:
    21st Mar 2012 07:03am

    kaz says: It's so sad. Every animal and insect has its reason for being here. All to do with mother nature. Shouldn't we adapt to living with them, not destroy them or injure them.

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