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  • grajac
    grajac
    Posted on:
    23rd Sep 2011 05:57pm

    Last Post 10th Sep 2013
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    Marriage

    Should a new word be made for gays to marry and have the same rights as a male and female who marry --- gayiage???

  • errolsyd
    errolsyd
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    8th Oct 2011 09:53pm

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  • marky
    marky
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    6th Nov 2011 11:35pm

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    marky says: GOT ME CONVINCED!

  • annacathryn
    annacathryn
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    12th Oct 2011 11:57am

    annacathryn says: Why does there need to be a new word? I think gay people in a loving relationship have every right to marry. Call it a marriage. It should be no different to a hetrosexual marriage.

  • Timbo
    Timbo
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    19th Oct 2011 09:58am

    annacathryn says: Why does there need to be a new word? I think gay people in a loving relationship have every right to marry. Call it a marriage. It should be no different to a hetrosexual marriage.

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  • annacathryn
    annacathryn
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    19th Oct 2011 10:13am

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    annacathryn says: Timbo, perhaps you haven't met many homosexual couples. You certainly shouldn't make such a blanket judgement based solely on your own personal experience. As with heterosexual couples, some homosexuals are in loving, enduring and mutually supportive relationships, some are not. I, for one, would rather see a child grow up in a caring and positive environment with two gay parents than in a hostile and destructive "straight" household. But regardless, this is not all about children, it's about marriage. One does not necessarily equal the other. I am in a committed heterosexual relationship and neither of us want marriage or children. It is entirely personal choice and that, coupled with the freedom to exercise this personal choice, is what it's all about.

  • champagne
    champagne
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    17th Jan 2012 08:05am

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    champagne says: I understand your perspective. But I have also seen many hetrosexual relationships in exactly the same boat. And your comments on homosexual couples raising children is very hurtful. I'm have been in a Civil Union with my wife for over one year now. (a Civil Union is a agreement similar to the marriage agreement.) Are you aware how difficult it is for a homosexual couple to have a child. Lesbians have to go through months of tests to find out if they are physically able to carry children before the health system will even consider putting them on the list for the few procedures available for AI. There is also the mine field of finding donars. Then there is the heart ache of each attempt that doesn't work, plus the thousands of dollars forked out for these procedures. I understand that many heterosexual couples go through similar conception problems. Please understand that we walked into our 'marriage' knowing the heartache and the struggles we would go through before we were blessed with a child. Anyone that has been through it would understand that its not a choice made lightly. So please consider the possibility that you have only encountered the immature stereotypical "gay scene" gays. and not the rest of us that just want to live a normal life with our partners.

  • Minaki
    Minaki
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    26th Jun 2013 12:43pm

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    Minaki says: There are hetero couples who are like this too. All those kids raised in non-loving and abusive homes, as well as people who stay in their marriages because of money, for the social status afraid to leave etc. How many couples do you know where one puts the other down in public and you know they don't like each other very much let alone love each other you often think "why are they together" ?

    Lots of people in marriages don't take responsibility for themselves or their children, but you can't ban these people from marrying.



  • grajac
    grajac
    Posted on:
    7th Nov 2011 01:03pm

    annacathryn says: Why does there need to be a new word? I think gay people in a loving relationship have every right to marry. Call it a marriage. It should be no different to a hetrosexual marriage.

    grajac says: I do not want to be considered gay as it is a very different relationshio to a relationship between a man and a woman

  • annacathryn
    annacathryn
    Posted on:
    10th Nov 2011 10:03am

    grajac says: I do not want to be considered gay as it is a very different relationshio to a relationship between a man and a woman

    annacathryn says: I'm not sure I understand what you mean grajac. If you're heterosexual why would you be considered gay?

    Nor do I understand your comment about gay relationships being very different to a relationship between a man and a woman. In what sense? Surely all relationships are very different? I know that my heterosexual relationship with my partner is very different to that of my parents' marriage for example. And different again to many of my friends' relationships.

  • annacathryn
    annacathryn
    Posted on:
    10th Nov 2011 10:03am

    grajac says: I do not want to be considered gay as it is a very different relationshio to a relationship between a man and a woman

    annacathryn says: I'm not sure I understand what you mean grajac. If you're heterosexual why would you be considered gay?

    Nor do I understand your comment about gay relationships being very different to a relationship between a man and a woman. In what sense? Surely all relationships are very different? I know that my heterosexual relationship with my partner is very different to that of my parents' marriage for example. And different again to many of my friends' relationships.

  • Lilly Legs
    Lilly Legs
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    8th Nov 2011 03:12pm

    annacathryn says: Why does there need to be a new word? I think gay people in a loving relationship have every right to marry. Call it a marriage. It should be no different to a hetrosexual marriage.

    Lilly Legs says: That is so true. You cant help who you love and if its the same sex it shouldnt matter

  • errolsyd
    errolsyd
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    28th Jan 2013 10:41pm

    annacathryn says: Why does there need to be a new word? I think gay people in a loving relationship have every right to marry. Call it a marriage. It should be no different to a hetrosexual marriage.

    errolsyd says: This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules.

  • marky
    marky
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    6th Nov 2011 11:34pm

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  • errolsyd
    errolsyd
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    28th Jan 2013 10:37pm

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  • grajac
    grajac
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    10th Nov 2011 05:10pm

    grajac says: If you don't know the difference between a gay relationshio and a heterosexual relationsip your education in relationships and between the parties is sadly lacking, gays are quite entiled to have a method of "cementing" their relationship in the same way as hetrosexaul couples but marriage has always meant "a reltaionship between different sexes",. Gays are entiled to have the same rights under the law as "straights.

  • annacathryn
    annacathryn
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    15th Nov 2011 03:32pm

    grajac says: If you don't know the difference between a gay relationshio and a heterosexual relationsip your education in relationships and between the parties is sadly lacking, gays are quite entiled to...

    annacathryn says: "Marriage has always mean a relationship between different sexes". Well Grajac, if we went by what has "always meant" then presumably slavery would still be rife and women would not have the vote. It's time for change. And apparently 62% of Australians agree with me:
    http://www.smh.com.au/national/voter-opinion-adds-weight-to-shift-in-marriage-policy-20111114-1nfkj.html

  • paradox
    paradox
    Posted on:
    20th Nov 2011 02:46pm

    annacathryn says: "Marriage has always mean a relationship between different sexes". Well Grajac, if we went by what has "always meant" then presumably slavery would still be rife and women would not have the vote....

    paradox says: Hi annacathryn, Thank you for supplying the link. I do note that the votes are divided into political party bases and can therefore not be a reliable source of trends. Labour and Greens are at 71 and 86% and LNP at 50%. That is not even a national poll!!! But hey, you want to be a couple, fine but don't ask my approval. The trend these days seems to be to cohabit and be a partnership rather than a marriage. But then what do I know, I'm married for 45 years and have lived a sheltered life.


  • errolsyd
    errolsyd
    Posted on:
    28th Jan 2013 10:49pm

    annacathryn says: "Marriage has always mean a relationship between different sexes". Well Grajac, if we went by what has "always meant" then presumably slavery would still be rife and women would not have the vote....

    errolsyd says: This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules.

  • grajac
    grajac
    Posted on:
    17th Nov 2011 05:19pm

    grajac says: Even the prime Minister sees the difference

  • paradox
    paradox
    Posted on:
    20th Nov 2011 02:48pm

    paradox says: grajac, I would not believe too much of what Julia has to say on anything!!!!!!!!!!!

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