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- grajac
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23rd Sep 2011 05:57pm
Last Post 28th Jan 2013
Replies 29Discussion: Marriage
Should a new word be made for gays to marry and have the same rights as a male and female who marry --- gayiage???
- errolsyd
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8th Oct 2011 09:53pmerrolsyd says: Yes How about a farce? homo couple certificate. Bent couple cert. , A joke?
- marky
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6th Nov 2011 11:35pmerrolsyd says: Yes How about a farce? homo couple certificate. Bent couple cert. , A joke?
marky says: GOT ME CONVINCED!
- annacathryn
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12th Oct 2011 11:57amannacathryn says: Why does there need to be a new word? I think gay people in a loving relationship have every right to marry. Call it a marriage. It should be no different to a hetrosexual marriage.
- Timbo
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19th Oct 2011 09:58amannacathryn says: Why does there need to be a new word? I think gay people in a loving relationship have every right to marry. Call it a marriage. It should be no different to a hetrosexual marriage.
Timbo says: I have never seen homosexual couples in what I would call a loving relationship. This kind of relationship seems to me to be mostly about satisfying each partner's own selfish desires. I certainly would not grace such a relationship with the word 'marriage'. The effect of these relationships on the view that children raised under them have of the concept of love and true marriage is disastrous to say the least. Homosexual couples should never have the same rights as heterosexual (note the correct spelling annacathryn) couples because they don't and can't take the same responsibilities.
- annacathryn
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19th Oct 2011 10:13amTimbo says: I have never seen homosexual couples in what I would call a loving relationship. This kind of relationship seems to me to be mostly about satisfying each partner's own selfish desires. I certainly...
annacathryn says: Timbo, perhaps you haven't met many homosexual couples. You certainly shouldn't make such a blanket judgement based solely on your own personal experience. As with heterosexual couples, some homosexuals are in loving, enduring and mutually supportive relationships, some are not. I, for one, would rather see a child grow up in a caring and positive environment with two gay parents than in a hostile and destructive "straight" household. But regardless, this is not all about children, it's about marriage. One does not necessarily equal the other. I am in a committed heterosexual relationship and neither of us want marriage or children. It is entirely personal choice and that, coupled with the freedom to exercise this personal choice, is what it's all about.
- champagne
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17th Jan 2012 08:05amTimbo says: I have never seen homosexual couples in what I would call a loving relationship. This kind of relationship seems to me to be mostly about satisfying each partner's own selfish desires. I certainly...
champagne says: I understand your perspective. But I have also seen many hetrosexual relationships in exactly the same boat. And your comments on homosexual couples raising children is very hurtful. I'm have been in a Civil Union with my wife for over one year now. (a Civil Union is a agreement similar to the marriage agreement.) Are you aware how difficult it is for a homosexual couple to have a child. Lesbians have to go through months of tests to find out if they are physically able to carry children before the health system will even consider putting them on the list for the few procedures available for AI. There is also the mine field of finding donars. Then there is the heart ache of each attempt that doesn't work, plus the thousands of dollars forked out for these procedures. I understand that many heterosexual couples go through similar conception problems. Please understand that we walked into our 'marriage' knowing the heartache and the struggles we would go through before we were blessed with a child. Anyone that has been through it would understand that its not a choice made lightly. So please consider the possibility that you have only encountered the immature stereotypical "gay scene" gays. and not the rest of us that just want to live a normal life with our partners.
- grajac
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7th Nov 2011 01:03pmannacathryn says: Why does there need to be a new word? I think gay people in a loving relationship have every right to marry. Call it a marriage. It should be no different to a hetrosexual marriage.
grajac says: I do not want to be considered gay as it is a very different relationshio to a relationship between a man and a woman
- annacathryn
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10th Nov 2011 10:03amgrajac says: I do not want to be considered gay as it is a very different relationshio to a relationship between a man and a woman
annacathryn says: I'm not sure I understand what you mean grajac. If you're heterosexual why would you be considered gay?
Nor do I understand your comment about gay relationships being very different to a relationship between a man and a woman. In what sense? Surely all relationships are very different? I know that my heterosexual relationship with my partner is very different to that of my parents' marriage for example. And different again to many of my friends' relationships. - annacathryn
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10th Nov 2011 10:03amgrajac says: I do not want to be considered gay as it is a very different relationshio to a relationship between a man and a woman
annacathryn says: I'm not sure I understand what you mean grajac. If you're heterosexual why would you be considered gay?
Nor do I understand your comment about gay relationships being very different to a relationship between a man and a woman. In what sense? Surely all relationships are very different? I know that my heterosexual relationship with my partner is very different to that of my parents' marriage for example. And different again to many of my friends' relationships. - Lilly Legs
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8th Nov 2011 03:12pmannacathryn says: Why does there need to be a new word? I think gay people in a loving relationship have every right to marry. Call it a marriage. It should be no different to a hetrosexual marriage.
Lilly Legs says: That is so true. You cant help who you love and if its the same sex it shouldnt matter
- errolsyd
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28th Jan 2013 10:41pmannacathryn says: Why does there need to be a new word? I think gay people in a loving relationship have every right to marry. Call it a marriage. It should be no different to a hetrosexual marriage.
errolsyd says: Bull s*** annacathryn . It is so different as to be not normal! Sorry dear but I will not ever agree that they can be mentioned in the same sentence!
- marky
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6th Nov 2011 11:34pmmarky says: I WAS HAPPIER WHEN GAY MEANT HAPPY! MAYBE IT SHOULD BE CALLED A SACRELIGIOUS CEREMONY BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
- errolsyd
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28th Jan 2013 10:37pmmarky says: I WAS HAPPIER WHEN GAY MEANT HAPPY! MAYBE IT SHOULD BE CALLED A SACRELIGIOUS CEREMONY BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
errolsyd says: Too right Marky . They stole too many words because they are not normal so they had to steal words like gay and fag { to have a smoke) Same sex couples having children is probably the worst case as their children will have no choice as all examples will be corrupted towards same sex interaction.Sick sick
- grajac
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10th Nov 2011 05:10pmgrajac says: If you don't know the difference between a gay relationshio and a heterosexual relationsip your education in relationships and between the parties is sadly lacking, gays are quite entiled to have a method of "cementing" their relationship in the same way as hetrosexaul couples but marriage has always meant "a reltaionship between different sexes",. Gays are entiled to have the same rights under the law as "straights.
- annacathryn
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15th Nov 2011 03:32pmgrajac says: If you don't know the difference between a gay relationshio and a heterosexual relationsip your education in relationships and between the parties is sadly lacking, gays are quite entiled to...
annacathryn says: "Marriage has always mean a relationship between different sexes". Well Grajac, if we went by what has "always meant" then presumably slavery would still be rife and women would not have the vote. It's time for change. And apparently 62% of Australians agree with me:
http://www.smh.com.au/national/voter-opinion-adds-weight-to-shift-in-marriage-policy-20111114-1nfkj.html - paradox
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20th Nov 2011 02:46pmannacathryn says: "Marriage has always mean a relationship between different sexes". Well Grajac, if we went by what has "always meant" then presumably slavery would still be rife and women would not have the vote....
paradox says: Hi annacathryn, Thank you for supplying the link. I do note that the votes are divided into political party bases and can therefore not be a reliable source of trends. Labour and Greens are at 71 and 86% and LNP at 50%. That is not even a national poll!!! But hey, you want to be a couple, fine but don't ask my approval. The trend these days seems to be to cohabit and be a partnership rather than a marriage. But then what do I know, I'm married for 45 years and have lived a sheltered life.
- errolsyd
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28th Jan 2013 10:49pmannacathryn says: "Marriage has always mean a relationship between different sexes". Well Grajac, if we went by what has "always meant" then presumably slavery would still be rife and women would not have the vote....
errolsyd says: If you take a poll in the right area you will get your result. I am a 64 yr old hetrosexual married with children I have taken a poll amongst my fellow golfers and with an age care group and both groups vote 96% against this abnormal situation! Your anology re slavery and womens rights mean less than a f*** in the wind!
- grajac
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17th Nov 2011 05:19pmgrajac says: Even the prime Minister sees the difference
- paradox
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20th Nov 2011 02:48pmparadox says: grajac, I would not believe too much of what Julia has to say on anything!!!!!!!!!!!
- lalise
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19th Dec 2011 03:42pmlalise says: I personally like "Domestic Partnership" on "Lifetime Partnership" and should apply to both homosexual and heterosexual partnerships.