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Should a new word be made for gays to marry and have the same rights as a male and female who marry --- gayiage???

Last reply: 6th Oct 2015 / 33 replies / Post by grajac

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errolsyd

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Posted: 8th Oct 2011

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marky

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Posted: 6th Nov 2011

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marky says: GOT ME CONVINCED! Reply

chrissy69

Posted by: chrissy69
Posted: 6th Oct 2015

marky says: GOT ME CONVINCED!

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annacathryn

Posted by: annacathryn
Posted: 12th Oct 2011

annacathryn says: Why does there need to be a new word? I think gay people in a loving relationship have every right to marry. Call it a marriage. It should be no different to a hetrosexual marriage. Reply

Timbo

Posted by: Timbo
Posted: 19th Oct 2011

annacathryn says: Why does there need to be a new word? I think gay people in a loving relationship have every right to marry. Call it a marriage. It should be no different to a hetrosexual marriage.

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annacathryn

Posted by: annacathryn
Posted: 19th Oct 2011

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annacathryn says: Timbo, perhaps you haven't met many homosexual couples. You certainly shouldn't make such a blanket judgement based solely on your own personal experience. As with heterosexual couples, some homosexuals are in loving, enduring and mutually supportive relationships, some are not. I, for one, would rather see a child grow up in a caring and positive environment with two gay parents than in a hostile and destructive "straight" household. But regardless, this is not all about children, it's about marriage. One does not necessarily equal the other. I am in a committed heterosexual relationship and neither of us want marriage or children. It is entirely personal choice and that, coupled with the freedom to exercise this personal choice, is what it's all about. Reply

champagne

Posted by: champagne
Posted: 17th Jan 2012

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champagne says: I understand your perspective. But I have also seen many hetrosexual relationships in exactly the same boat. And your comments on homosexual couples raising children is very hurtful. I'm have been in a Civil Union with my wife for over one year now. (a Civil Union is a agreement similar to the marriage agreement.) Are you aware how difficult it is for a homosexual couple to have a child. Lesbians have to go through months of tests to find out if they are physically able to carry children before the health system will even consider putting them on the list for the few procedures available for AI. There is also the mine field of finding donars. Then there is the heart ache of each attempt that doesn't work, plus the thousands of dollars forked out for these procedures. I understand that many heterosexual couples go through similar conception problems. Please understand that we walked into our 'marriage' knowing the heartache and the struggles we would go through before we were blessed with a child. Anyone that has been through it would understand that its not a choice made lightly. So please consider the possibility that you have only encountered the immature stereotypical "gay scene" gays. and not the rest of us that just want to live a normal life with our partners. Reply

Minaki

Posted by: Minaki
Posted: 26th Jun 2013

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Minaki says: There are hetero couples who are like this too. All those kids raised in non-loving and abusive homes, as well as people who stay in their marriages because of money, for the social status afraid to leave etc. How many couples do you know where one puts the other down in public and you know they don't like each other very much let alone love each other you often think "why are they together" ?

Lots of people in marriages don't take responsibility for themselves or their children, but you can't ban these people from marrying.

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grajac

Posted by: grajac
Posted: 7th Nov 2011

annacathryn says: Why does there need to be a new word? I think gay people in a loving relationship have every right to marry. Call it a marriage. It should be no different to a hetrosexual marriage.

grajac says: I do not want to be considered gay as it is a very different relationshio to a relationship between a man and a woman Reply

annacathryn

Posted by: annacathryn
Posted: 10th Nov 2011

grajac says: I do not want to be considered gay as it is a very different relationshio to a relationship between a man and a woman

annacathryn says: I'm not sure I understand what you mean grajac. If you're heterosexual why would you be considered gay?

Nor do I understand your comment about gay relationships being very different to a relationship between a man and a woman. In what sense? Surely all relationships are very different? I know that my heterosexual relationship with my partner is very different to that of my parents' marriage for example. And different again to many of my friends' relationships. Reply

annacathryn

Posted by: annacathryn
Posted: 10th Nov 2011

grajac says: I do not want to be considered gay as it is a very different relationshio to a relationship between a man and a woman

annacathryn says: I'm not sure I understand what you mean grajac. If you're heterosexual why would you be considered gay?

Nor do I understand your comment about gay relationships being very different to a relationship between a man and a woman. In what sense? Surely all relationships are very different? I know that my heterosexual relationship with my partner is very different to that of my parents' marriage for example. And different again to many of my friends' relationships. Reply

Lilly Legs

Posted by: Lilly Legs
Posted: 8th Nov 2011

annacathryn says: Why does there need to be a new word? I think gay people in a loving relationship have every right to marry. Call it a marriage. It should be no different to a hetrosexual marriage.

Lilly Legs says: That is so true. You cant help who you love and if its the same sex it shouldnt matter Reply

errolsyd

Posted by: errolsyd
Posted: 28th Jan 2013

annacathryn says: Why does there need to be a new word? I think gay people in a loving relationship have every right to marry. Call it a marriage. It should be no different to a hetrosexual marriage.

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marky

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Posted: 6th Nov 2011

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errolsyd

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Posted: 28th Jan 2013

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grajac

Posted by: grajac
Posted: 10th Nov 2011

grajac says: If you don't know the difference between a gay relationshio and a heterosexual relationsip your education in relationships and between the parties is sadly lacking, gays are quite entiled to have a method of "cementing" their relationship in the same way as hetrosexaul couples but marriage has always meant "a reltaionship between different sexes",. Gays are entiled to have the same rights under the law as "straights. Reply

annacathryn

Posted by: annacathryn
Posted: 15th Nov 2011

grajac says: If you don't know the difference between a gay relationshio and a heterosexual relationsip your education in relationships and between the parties is sadly lacking, gays are quite entiled to...

annacathryn says: "Marriage has always mean a relationship between different sexes". Well Grajac, if we went by what has "always meant" then presumably slavery would still be rife and women would not have the vote. It's time for change. And apparently 62% of Australians agree with me:
http://www.smh.com.au/national/voter-opinion-adds-weight-to-shift-in-marriage-policy-20111114-1nfkj.html Reply

paradox

Posted by: paradox
Posted: 20th Nov 2011

annacathryn says: "Marriage has always mean a relationship between different sexes". Well Grajac, if we went by what has "always meant" then presumably slavery would still be rife and women would not have the vote....

paradox says: Hi annacathryn, Thank you for supplying the link. I do note that the votes are divided into political party bases and can therefore not be a reliable source of trends. Labour and Greens are at 71 and 86% and LNP at 50%. That is not even a national poll!!! But hey, you want to be a couple, fine but don't ask my approval. The trend these days seems to be to cohabit and be a partnership rather than a marriage. But then what do I know, I'm married for 45 years and have lived a sheltered life.
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errolsyd

Posted by: errolsyd
Posted: 28th Jan 2013

annacathryn says: "Marriage has always mean a relationship between different sexes". Well Grajac, if we went by what has "always meant" then presumably slavery would still be rife and women would not have the vote....

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grajac

Posted by: grajac
Posted: 17th Nov 2011

grajac says: Even the prime Minister sees the difference Reply

paradox

Posted by: paradox
Posted: 20th Nov 2011

paradox says: grajac, I would not believe too much of what Julia has to say on anything!!!!!!!!!!! Reply

lalise

Posted by: lalise
Posted: 19th Dec 2011

lalise says: I personally like "Domestic Partnership" on "Lifetime Partnership" and should apply to both homosexual and heterosexual partnerships. Reply

Sarahg

Posted by: Sarahg
Posted: 19th Dec 2011

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annacathryn

Posted by: annacathryn
Posted: 17th Jan 2012

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annacathryn says: The bible also says that women shouldn't wear men's clothing (and vice versa). On this basis I take it you would never dream of wearing trousers?

So how about you move on from a book that is full of contradictions and irrelevance?

Gay people should have every right to marry and I am glad that Australia is finally taking steps to make this happen. Reply

beth

Posted by: beth
Posted: 25th Jan 2012

beth says: yes i believe gays (sorry if that offends anyone) should be legally allowed to marry, that is who they are and who they chose to be if we do not let them be who they are what are we really saying?

just because there not the same as many of us doesn't mean they have to get punished for being that way.....everyone is different why are we demanding that they change their outlook on people and ways just because what its unacceptable, its not.... were unacceptable by the way we've been acting towards them. Reply

washann

Posted by: washann
Posted: 18th Feb 2012

washann says: It all boils down to a human being. Does it really matter their sexual preference? I would rather two people were happily in blissful love and knew how to communicate with each other to sort out their problems than the amount of broken marriages/relationships we have with male/female unions. Reply

gill64

Posted by: gill64
Posted: 18th Feb 2012

gill64 says: no i think everyone has the right to be legally married no matter what their sex is it,s time the world got updated Reply

gill64

Posted by: gill64
Posted: 18th Feb 2012

gill64 says: no everyone has the right to be classed as legally married no matter what sex you are the world is changing people keep up Reply

Ganic12

Posted by: Ganic12
Posted: 2nd Mar 2012

Ganic12 says: Gay people would have all equal rights no doubt, but I couldn't call their relationship as marriage. It would be called as sort of civil union which needs to be legalized by law. It cannot be seen exactly same as heterosexual marriage. Reply

wonder2009

Posted by: wonder2009
Posted: 7th Jun 2012

wonder2009 says: What's the big deal anyway? And judging from some of the responses on here, homophobia is alive and well unfortunately. Focus your energy on more important issues; infact, mind your own business! If two people, whether hetero or homosexual want to show their love for each other..LET THEM! It's not anyone's place to judge.

Move on! Reply

Pops

Posted by: Pops
Posted: 8th Jan 2013

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Sonnie

Posted by: Sonnie
Posted: 10th Jul 2013

Sonnie says: No! I think marriage is marriage is marriage. And for all those who are against same sex marriage two thoughts for you. First, many same sex couples stay together longer than "man and wife" marriages and secondly, what would Jesus say if he were here now? Reply

squeekums

Posted by: squeekums
Posted: 10th Sep 2013

squeekums says: First up the first post Highly offensive

Second here an idea. Scrap the term marriage, make all couples gay and straight civil unions at the registary and if you wish to have religion or fluffy BS part of your union, have another ceremony after that has no legal side at all
Easy fix Reply

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